Converting the AX15 internal slave cylinder to external

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Every person I have talked to about the internal to external slave cylinder conversion says it is well worth it. I bought the NOVAk conversion. My issue right now is that their installation instructions are geared to removing the transmission. I just finished a rebuild of my 4.2L engine, and it is OUT of the Jeep.
NOVAK instructions are also seem to be written for experienced mechanics and NOT a "shade tree", like me.

Can someone offer help on installing the external slave cylinder installation, especially on how to measure the "air gap" on the throw out bearing with the engine out, instead of the transmission. I don't want to have to install the engine and remove the transmission to accomplish this conversion if it can be avoided..

Any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
I'd highly recommend returning the Novak kit and go with factory style external slave parts. Novak converts you to a custom setup which while easier to fix, will not be super easy to get parts for if they die. With the factory setup you can just run and get stock style parts when you need to mess with it.

I would offer help for the Novak stuff but I personally don't have experience with it and don't know anyone who has installed one. I have only looked at it online a few times over the years.

If you choose the factory style route, you mostly need a bellhousing, a front bearing retainer, new clutch with TOB, clutch fork, clutch fork spring, clutch fork pivot ball, and the master/slave assembly.

If your firewall is 87-90 (sure it is since you have a 4.2L), then you need to modify the holes in the firewall for the 91-95 clutch master cylinder, or adapt the 87-90 master cylinder to the 91-95 slave cylinder. I would prefer to mod the firewall to accept the later master cylinder so that you can always buy pre bled 91-95 master/slave assemblies.
 
ZachW98 said:
What exactly is so good about the external slave cylinder besides it being easier to repair? I just ordered a rebuilt AX15 from these guys, https://reman-transmission.com/transmission-codes/?code=AX15, to replace the busted AW4 I have right now and I want to make sure I get it setup just right the first time
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Being easier to repair IS what makes it so good to go with. When the internal slave dies you have to pull the transmission, and there are no known-to-be-good internal slave options on the market. So you are putting in a part that will work indefinitely which means you may be dropping the transmission in a year, 2, maybe 5. They tend to fail pretty early so you can count on early changes, which just gets old fast when the transmission has to come out.

The external isn't perfect, they die too, but it's a 15 minute repair vs taking most of a day. Plus the convenience factor, I can change the external in the parking lot of a store, I can't do that with the internal. It's just a better and much more convenient design.

If the factory parts were still available than internal wouldn't be so bad as the factory parts actually lasted a while.
 
machoheadgames said:
Being easier to repair IS what makes it so good to go with. When the internal slave dies you have to pull the transmission, and there are no known-to-be-good internal slave options on the market. So you are putting in a part that will work indefinitely which means you may be dropping the transmission in a year, 2, maybe 5. They tend to fail pretty early so you can count on early changes, which just gets old fast when the transmission has to come out.

The external isn't perfect, they die too, but it's a 15 minute repair vs taking most of a day. Plus the convenience factor, I can change the external in the parking lot of a store, I can't do that with the internal. It's just a better and much more convenient design.

If the factory parts were still available than internal wouldn't be so bad as the factory parts actually lasted a while.
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I have a 1990 YJ with an internal that is leaking. I’m new to ALL of this…. Why can’t I find an external slave cylinder?? I already have the housing and throw out bearing and fork.
 
spitshine15 said:
I have a 1990 YJ with an internal that is leaking. I’m new to ALL of this…. Why can’t I find an external slave cylinder?? I already have the housing and throw out bearing and fork.
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You’re looking for the slave cylinder part itself or a transmission set up to be used with external slave?
 
Tree top flyer said:
Every person I have talked to about the internal to external slave cylinder conversion says it is well worth it. I bought the NOVAk conversion. My issue right now is that their installation instructions are geared to removing the transmission. I just finished a rebuild of my 4.2L engine, and it is OUT of the Jeep.
NOVAK instructions are also seem to be written for experienced mechanics and NOT a "shade tree", like me.

Can someone offer help on installing the external slave cylinder installation, especially on how to measure the "air gap" on the throw out bearing with the engine out, instead of the transmission. I don't want to have to install the engine and remove the transmission to accomplish this conversion if it can be avoided..

Any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Give us a call and we can help walk you through the process. 435-753-2513

-Dustin
 
machoheadgames said:
I'd highly recommend returning the Novak kit and go with factory style external slave parts. Novak converts you to a custom setup which while easier to fix, will not be super easy to get parts for if they die. With the factory setup you can just run and get stock style parts when you need to mess with it.

I would offer help for the Novak stuff but I personally don't have experience with it and don't know anyone who has installed one. I have only looked at it online a few times over the years.
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We have all the parts for our kits on the shelf and ready to ship.

-Dustin
 
you have several transmission places { or you uses to} and a few salvage yards to get parts that you need in Minden . its best to buy local if you can. stick with one person on the forum like "MACHOHEADGAMES" and the job will get done right. good luck
 
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