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<blockquote data-quote="deadpool1" data-source="post: 439413" data-attributes="member: 21229"><p>Redux 2: TBI pains. French PCM madness.</p><p>first off this TBI , set ups are a huge pain, unlike 1991+ zero TPS calibrations and no HUGE ISA(IAC) there and the pain of that too.</p><p>91 ended RENIX (made in France) top new SBEC PCM,. (hugely better)</p><p><a href="https://wrangleryjforum.com/threads/jeep-wrangler-yj-factory-service-manuals-fsm-and-part-catalogs.27000/" target="_blank">not only that but the FSM calls out a special tool to setup this crazy ISA motor drive setup.</a></p><p>not clear at all is , what part of TPS calibration is the most important , as most cars made with TBI idle is critical.</p><p>but wait this car has 2 switches here, WOT and idle,. and both must work and not be dead or set wrong.</p><p>My best guess (gee ,im no Jeep TBI programming expert) <<how it really works IDK.</p><p>The idle switch is inside the ISA, and this is covered in the<a href="https://wrangleryjforum.com/threads/jeep-wrangler-yj-factory-service-manuals-fsm-and-part-catalogs.27000/" target="_blank"><strong> free FSM </strong> , chapter 14. </a></p><p>chapter 14 covers, wot and idle switches , tests and adjustments. (i bet this is really the first step not TPS calib )</p><p></p><p></p><p>TPS is set, key on, engine off , </p><p>only the TPS output pin is set.pin A.</p><p>the procedure can surely fail if the ISA is bad. (idle motor failing in lots of ways it can)</p><p>the TPS is set at 17 and 93% 17 is idle and 93 is wot.</p><p>but the ISN gets in the way of the TV, keyon, not running, so my guess is, the 93% setting is the critical TPS calibration step.</p><p>Again the power pin is not 5vdc, no, it is 4.5 to 5.5Vdc, each PCM sold is in that range it is NOT A PRECISION power supply it is +/- 10% spec.</p><p>so we measure that first to compute outcome set TPS calibration, (adjustment/alignment) what ever you want to call it ,IDC</p><p>do not use body,battery or engine ground to the meter, only use PIN B for ground or it all fails.</p><p>the word INPUT below means the Power pin C,below. one can say Input power pin to be clear.</p><p>Now my idea simple</p><p>just do the WOT calibration</p><p>1: input say is 5.0vdc (it wont be) measure pin C to B (this is a DMM test, using needle probes)</p><p>2: .93 % times 5.0vdc = 4.65vdc (computed by you only, , math C TO B times 0.93 = 4.65vdd</p><p>3: move TV (throttle valve) by hand to max WOT, and turn TPS to , 4.65vdc at pin A to B.</p><p>4: tighen TPS torx T20 screws gently, a done deal; in 4 steps. (by me) call it a day.</p><p></p><p>FSM actual</p><p>SEE IF LIKE THIS,</p><p>[ATTACH=full]121837[/ATTACH]</p><p>idle TPS voltage keyon (metered), engine off is not predictable. ISA is crazy device, if you read all about it in the FSM</p><p>and easy to break too, see all warnings on it , in chapter 14.</p><p></p><p>I know why it is so, it is because at key on, it uses stored data to predict, start up air even down to<strong> -40F</strong> degrees air temps. </p><p>it has huge table in ROM. inside the PCM to do that, even my 95 does. as do all cars made EFI (gas)</p><p>it open the throttle ,key, to allow a clean fast easy startup at any ambient temp,even in ALASKE or top of Pikes Peak.</p><p></p><p>reading the wrong books you did, the<a href="https://wrangleryjforum.com/threads/jeep-wrangler-yj-factory-service-manuals-fsm-and-part-catalogs.27000/" target="_blank"> OEM books is , free.</a></p><p>the real book told you unlike lame ChILL-TONS(sic) told you</p><p></p><p>the PCM 5vdc pin is not 5vdc, it is 4.5 to 5.5Vdc. this is in the FSM preamble, chapter 14. that CHILL_TONS forgot to keep. (lost it)</p><p></p><p>never use chiltons to calibrate ANYTHING.</p><p>the make great books if reading how now to get injured, this is true, so has some value there.</p><p>like dont drink fuel</p><p>do not eat a running fan blade.</p><p>depressurize the fuel loop first. not spray eyes with fuel, cracking open fuel lines and no eye protection</p><p>and more. (never get under any car lacking real jackstands, ever. using only 1 china made jack, omg</p><p></p><p>good luck and do ask questions for sure how to test parts.</p><p>and for sure EFI just hates RUSTY corroded or loose wires and pins,/sockets.</p><p>the CEL lamp must go out running,, does it.?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="deadpool1, post: 439413, member: 21229"] Redux 2: TBI pains. French PCM madness. first off this TBI , set ups are a huge pain, unlike 1991+ zero TPS calibrations and no HUGE ISA(IAC) there and the pain of that too. 91 ended RENIX (made in France) top new SBEC PCM,. (hugely better) [URL='https://wrangleryjforum.com/threads/jeep-wrangler-yj-factory-service-manuals-fsm-and-part-catalogs.27000/']not only that but the FSM calls out a special tool to setup this crazy ISA motor drive setup.[/URL] not clear at all is , what part of TPS calibration is the most important , as most cars made with TBI idle is critical. but wait this car has 2 switches here, WOT and idle,. and both must work and not be dead or set wrong. My best guess (gee ,im no Jeep TBI programming expert) <<how it really works IDK. The idle switch is inside the ISA, and this is covered in the[URL='https://wrangleryjforum.com/threads/jeep-wrangler-yj-factory-service-manuals-fsm-and-part-catalogs.27000/'][B] free FSM [/B] , chapter 14. [/URL] chapter 14 covers, wot and idle switches , tests and adjustments. (i bet this is really the first step not TPS calib ) TPS is set, key on, engine off , only the TPS output pin is set.pin A. the procedure can surely fail if the ISA is bad. (idle motor failing in lots of ways it can) the TPS is set at 17 and 93% 17 is idle and 93 is wot. but the ISN gets in the way of the TV, keyon, not running, so my guess is, the 93% setting is the critical TPS calibration step. Again the power pin is not 5vdc, no, it is 4.5 to 5.5Vdc, each PCM sold is in that range it is NOT A PRECISION power supply it is +/- 10% spec. so we measure that first to compute outcome set TPS calibration, (adjustment/alignment) what ever you want to call it ,IDC do not use body,battery or engine ground to the meter, only use PIN B for ground or it all fails. the word INPUT below means the Power pin C,below. one can say Input power pin to be clear. Now my idea simple just do the WOT calibration 1: input say is 5.0vdc (it wont be) measure pin C to B (this is a DMM test, using needle probes) 2: .93 % times 5.0vdc = 4.65vdc (computed by you only, , math C TO B times 0.93 = 4.65vdd 3: move TV (throttle valve) by hand to max WOT, and turn TPS to , 4.65vdc at pin A to B. 4: tighen TPS torx T20 screws gently, a done deal; in 4 steps. (by me) call it a day. FSM actual SEE IF LIKE THIS, [ATTACH type="full" alt="tps1.JPG"]121837[/ATTACH] idle TPS voltage keyon (metered), engine off is not predictable. ISA is crazy device, if you read all about it in the FSM and easy to break too, see all warnings on it , in chapter 14. I know why it is so, it is because at key on, it uses stored data to predict, start up air even down to[B] -40F[/B] degrees air temps. it has huge table in ROM. inside the PCM to do that, even my 95 does. as do all cars made EFI (gas) it open the throttle ,key, to allow a clean fast easy startup at any ambient temp,even in ALASKE or top of Pikes Peak. reading the wrong books you did, the[URL='https://wrangleryjforum.com/threads/jeep-wrangler-yj-factory-service-manuals-fsm-and-part-catalogs.27000/'] OEM books is , free.[/URL] the real book told you unlike lame ChILL-TONS(sic) told you the PCM 5vdc pin is not 5vdc, it is 4.5 to 5.5Vdc. this is in the FSM preamble, chapter 14. that CHILL_TONS forgot to keep. (lost it) never use chiltons to calibrate ANYTHING. the make great books if reading how now to get injured, this is true, so has some value there. like dont drink fuel do not eat a running fan blade. depressurize the fuel loop first. not spray eyes with fuel, cracking open fuel lines and no eye protection and more. (never get under any car lacking real jackstands, ever. using only 1 china made jack, omg good luck and do ask questions for sure how to test parts. and for sure EFI just hates RUSTY corroded or loose wires and pins,/sockets. the CEL lamp must go out running,, does it.? [/QUOTE]
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